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Nancy Rothwell: science will get nowhere without social sciences

色盒直播 forum hears Manchester v-c spotlight social sciences and humanities, plus universities鈥 local roles, in vision for post-pandemic future

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July 7, 2021
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The post-pandemic era is one where the social role of universities in their local communities, the humanities and social sciences, and fundamental research should all be seen as vital, according to the University of Manchester vice-chancellor.

Dame Nancy Rothwell was speaking at the聽Times Higher Education聽University Impact Forum 2021, focused on health and held in partnership with RCSI University of Medicine and Health Sciences.

Dame Nancy, who is also chair of the Russell Group, said universities 鈥渉ave been acutely aware of the impact of Covid on their surrounding societies鈥 during the pandemic.

She highlighted that the five vice-chancellors from Greater Manchester鈥檚 universities have been meeting weekly since March last year to discuss not just pandemic issues聽such as testing and vaccinations but also wider issues.

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The five universities have been 鈥渄eveloping a [joint] civic university agreement, and we鈥檝e been聽working with the nine further education college principals聽across Greater Manchester to see how we can contribute to building back better and building skills across the region 鈥 particularly skills in disadvantaged areas鈥, said Dame Nancy.

鈥淚 can鈥檛 imagine that would have happened without Covid.鈥

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Her university, she said, was 鈥渢hinking not just about where are we in terms of student recruitment, or research outputs or whatever else, but where are we in terms of wider society? What role can we now play in building back better and helping our local communities? And in tackling things like inequality 鈥 which have been highlighted by the pandemic.鈥

Asked about the future of the humanities 鈥 which some see as marginalised by the Westminster government鈥檚 focus on STEM 鈥 Dame Nancy said: 鈥淪cience is the golden boy at the moment, but we should not forget that humanities is about understanding what makes us human and how we behave in society.鈥

She cited the In Place of War project at Manchester, founded by professor of applied and social theatre James Thompson, which has used 鈥渄rama to bring together people who have been in conflict鈥, including people from overseas war zones as well as refugees in Manchester.

This project has highlighted that 鈥渨hen people come out of something terrible like a war, like a pandemic鈥, they 鈥渢urn to creative activities鈥, Dame Nancy said.

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She continued: 鈥淲ithout the social sciences, science is going to get nowhere. Because science needs to understand how society will accept, or not, what鈥檚 it doing.鈥

Noting the importance of issues like focusing on the social impact of AI, she added: 鈥淓very time I speak to government about it, I say: don鈥檛 forget humanities.鈥

Dame Nancy went on: 鈥淚 had a fascinating conversation with someone who runs a big gaming company鈥e asked about our graduates. I said: 鈥楶resumably, you want our computer science graduates.鈥 He said: 鈥楴o, I want your experts in drama, creative writing, history, global cultures 鈥 creative people鈥e can do all the rest.鈥欌

Asked about the role of fundamental research when government policy sometimes emphasises applied research, Dame Nancy said: 鈥淓very time I talk to government, politicians and policymakers, I say we would never have got that [Covid] vaccine had it not been for all the fundamental research over many years in understanding the chemistry of vaccines, how to produce them, how to bottle them 鈥 let alone understanding our immune systems and how they work and how viruses work.鈥

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Dame Nancy added: 鈥淎pplied research is really important, but you鈥檝e got to have something to apply.鈥

john.morgan@timeshighereducation.com

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